Except Kelly hasn't met those standards
by ShermanOaksND (2014-12-31 13:18:07)
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  In reply to: Re:  posted by JTS2008

First, the bar should be 10, not 9. In any event, Kelly averages 9 wins now only because of 2012. A majority of the time (3 out of 5 years), he's gone 8-5, and he needed an upset win yesterday to pull it off this year. That obviously isn't good enough.

And while 10-3 should be the average, for Kelly to reach that by 2019 he's going to need to average 11-2 the next 5 years. At this point I probably could be talked into settling for a 10-3 average the next 5 years, which would bring Kelly to 95-35 (.731).

But even to average 10-3, he'd need some seasons where he does better than that -- just as he badly needed that 12-1 season just to get to a 9-4 average to this point. 2015, in particular, strikes me as a season where we should win no fewer than 11 games, including the bowl(s). A 10-3 mark next year, with all the advantages we figure to have in personnel and scheduling, would be a disappointment and a bad sign for the future -- although I'm sure ND would be delighted with it and start printing "10 WINS!" t-shirts.

I think we need to limit topics of records to the
by cujays96  (2014-12-31 13:23:24)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

regular season. While no one wants to lose in a bowl, there is a big difference between 9-3 becoming 9-4 in a bowl game and 8-4 becoming 9-4 in a bowl game, when one considers the type of bowl game and opponent the former will garner.

That's fair, although it doesn't always apply
by ShermanOaksND  (2014-12-31 13:38:29)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

This year's 7-5 team drew a much stronger bowl opponent than last year's 8-4 team did. That's the nature of our new relationship with the ACC, which didn't apply last year.

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