Who is the last "front office" person that we've had
by cj (2017-03-15 13:31:34)
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running the football program that had experience in this area?


IIRC, Dick Rosenthal did a good job w/ ND football..... *
by Harv79Pangborn  (2017-03-17 13:14:52)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


White was an experienced AD......
by brnd  (2017-03-15 14:14:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

.....but gets an F for his work at ND.


White gave Charlie the bigly contract extension - awful fail *
by saderdomer  (2017-03-16 13:32:39)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


D- because Brey *
by Wooderson  (2017-03-15 17:56:17)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


He also hired Jeff Jackson.
by tdiddy07  (2017-03-15 18:10:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

And he did the lion's share of all the facilities work for the other sports. And he had Gruden in the fold before being strong armed by Monk into hiring Ty. For all that, I'd give him a C. But his 7-4-1 bullshit alienated ND in the critical years before conference shakeups and put us in a position of weakness. Swarbrick tried to put lipstick on that shit and it's ultimately proven to be a failure that appears to be on life support for now. His priorities were misplaced and that has cost ND dearly.


He lucked into both Brey and Jackson
by Kayo  (2017-03-16 10:25:51)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

All of the other candidates who were considered when Doherty was hired would have been candidates again, but all except Brey had a new job when Doherty left. Skip Prosser, for example, moved from Xavier to Wake Forest; and Paul Hewitt moved from Siena to Georgia Tech. They and Brey would have taken the ND job a year earlier.

Even with the obvious choice available and interested, White pursued Ernie Kent who, like many of Kevin White's "candidates," parlayed ND's interest into a contract extension. He also chased PJ Carlesimo. Ugh.

Then there is Jeff Jackson. He was in his first NHL gig, an assistant for the NY Islanders, working to become an NHL head coach. Then the NHL had a labor stoppage for the better part of two years. With no end to the lockout in sight, Jackson was available for a return to college.

White hired both coaches, but his other searches suggest that dumb luck played a bigger role in getting good people than his skill evaluating coaching prospects.


The ACC over commitment is every bit as crippling to our
by ACross  (2017-03-15 19:21:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Scheduling appeal and flexibility as the 7-4-1 nonsense. Add to it to NBC 5 night games every two years ankle grab and you've effectively shot the schedule right in the ear.

Every game that isn't a tuna can and/or bottom tier Fka southern conference opponent will be at night. We'll have a maximum of 3 elite opponents games per year, counting Stanford, to avoid a tangential discussion.

Kbyrnes and sprocket will still attend every game.


ACC Commitment is worse
by Nihilist In Golf Pants  (2017-03-16 11:01:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You can stop scheduling 7-4-1 without consequence. Leaving the ACC would be extremely difficult.


In theory, we could modify our commitment by reducing our ga
by ACross  (2017-03-16 11:24:38)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Per year to 3. Legal wrangling would ensue, of course.


A product of laziness on the part of the AD.
by SWPaDem  (2017-03-16 07:36:42)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Although I can imagine that the PTB were just fine with all the extra time to chum it up with our aspirational peers in the venerable ACC.


Thank you. Please look at his pre-ND football resume....
by cj  (2017-03-15 15:17:20)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

So, basically when ND hired him in 2000 he was a football failure...

Sadly, he looks like George Young compared to swarbrick.

We are beyond help...

ASU
2000 6-6
1999 6-6
1998 5-6
1997 9-3
1996 11-1

Tulane
1996 2-9
1995 2-9
1994 1-10
1993 3-9
1992 2-9
1991 1-10

Maine 1987 - 1991
Loras College 1982-1987


2008–Present Duke University
2000–2008 Notre Dame
1996–2000 Arizona State University
1991–1996 Tulane University
1987–1991 University of Maine
1982–1987 Loras College



Maine was pretty good in football when he was there. *
by vitadulcedospes  (2017-03-15 16:06:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I couldn't find their or Loras' record. Cfb data warehouse
by cj  (2017-03-15 16:45:07)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

is down.... College sports reference didn't have anything... then I gave up....

It's fitting that swarbrick, like his hc, is winging it.....


I was pretty goood at surgery
by Moff  (2017-03-15 16:37:32)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

When I played Operation .


Great Observer article from when Lou was hired..... (link)
by cj  (2017-03-15 19:57:16)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Thanks. My copy is a cut out that is welded
by Moff  (2017-03-16 09:20:24)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

to a 1980s era adhesive photo album. It was the style at the time.


Dr. White
by pvm333  (2017-03-15 14:31:42)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

You are kind with an F, he seemed to think his job was to be a lackey and sycophant to Malloy. His abuse of the English language was abominable.


Wadsworth, allegedly, former player...he got the job done
by Domer58  (2017-03-15 13:40:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

along with Malloy to severely wound the program...a totally smug, arrogant pompous piece of (insert favorite description)___________


Thank you. He had zero AD experience prior to ND. *
by cj  (2017-03-15 15:22:26)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Pontius Pilate killed Jesus, Wadsworth terminated Holtz
by pvm333  (2017-03-15 14:37:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Wadsworth was worse!


Corrigan and Rosenthal showed Lou respect, I believe.
by mkovac  (2017-03-15 17:19:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It's my understanding the Monk and Beauchamp were pissed at some of the players Lou was bringing in and changed his employment status under Wadsworth to one-year contracts, and that Lou, being insulted by this, chose to retire. That he was not terminated, but forced out.


Corrigan was an AD for 12 years prior to ND. *
by cj  (2017-03-15 19:55:27)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Rosenthal was a smart guy, but I believe....
by brnd  (2017-03-15 18:16:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

...his only athletics experience prior to becoming AD was as a player.
A career banker, as I recall.


Yep, was an ND grad, NBA player... too came aboard '87. *
by cj  (2017-03-15 19:52:17)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Didn't Lou say something to the effect of "I'm just the
by ArasEra  (2017-03-15 17:34:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

monkey, you'll have to ask the organ grinder" when asked why he was leaving?


Yup *
by Moff  (2017-03-15 18:03:21)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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