Colts Lucus Oil Stadium cost less $1B in 2024 dollars
by jbrown_9999 (2024-04-25 09:36:24)

In reply to: I see the Bears announced a 5 billion dollar domed stadium.  posted by 84david


What does an extra $4B get the Bears?


A number of factors.
by NDGriffin  (2024-04-25 14:43:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

There's earmarked 1.3 or 1.4 Billion in infrastructure changes. So thats just the roads, the mess that will be created on DLSD, and some phantom parking even further south.

Then there's demo of the last stadium renovation and most of the site, preservation of the hisotirc colonnade, and building of the multipurpose museum cmapus connection on top of the old site.

Then then,Lucas Oil is a trussed solid roof. This is a transparent ETFE (probably) roof with a far more advanced structural system. There's a lot of noise regarding the artificial playing surfaces across the NFL. I wouldn't build (and would certianly hope the Bears have considered) a stadium that couldn't long-term support a natural grass field. I imagine the previous bullet plays a siginifcant roll in the roofing choice here.

So...quickly in today's money, you rack up a big price tag. What a few billion dollars amongst friends?


It almost sounds like you know what you're talking about. *
by ndalum1  (2024-04-26 15:56:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Union dues?
by tdiddy07  (2024-04-25 09:46:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I'm curious whether there's a notable difference in labor costs in Chicago v. Indianapolis. I'd guess that there is just from cost-of-living considerations. I don't know if these kinds of workers would tend to Unionized in one locale but not in another. But even so, I can't see that accounting for five times the cost.

Another thought is whether being trapped in a city with parkland surrounding it makes it a more expensive demo and cleanup with various EPA compliance that might not apply to a city block surrounded by parking lots.

There also may be more effort to build around the stadium, as they seem to want to keep the Soldier Field colonnade and incorporate that into the park. I'd guess those costs weren't part of Lucas Oil considerations. For instance, SoFi in LA cost $5.5 billion. I imagine that also included costs to incorporate the stadium into parkland. But they also probably spent a bunch of money on architectural design. The initial proposal for the Bears has more flare than Lucas Oil (which isn't to say it's any more attractive). They seem to lean into the space ship theme instead of a simple, symmetrical dome.

But still, that's eye-popping.


Rendering looks like Allegiant in LV. *
by Wooderson  (2024-04-25 12:53:51)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post