We all know that the collegiate athlete system is fucked up already. Besides that Johnny Football has never spoken ill of Notre Dame, we never play A&M anyway and I don't recall anyone believing that A&M is in the same class academically as Notre Dame. I really hope people are not still upset about the Heisman race and/or looking for dirt on this kid after the whole Te'o girlfriend episode. IMO this holds about as much importance as the Scooby Doo Halloween costume "incident," aka none at all.
Of course I probably just way overanalyzed this whole thread
is this punk the first bmoc?
Likely his girlfriend/cousin is actually doing the work.
As an aside, credit SC - hard to believe ballroom dancing could be an online course.
I can remember being in a large lecture hall with 300 other students learning Calculus and other GenEd classes 3 days a week. There was little to no interaction with the professor only the supporting teaching assistants that we met with on Tuesday and Thursday. There was really not much educational value in meeting in a large lecture hall versus watching it online. It also means I can watch it, rewind it, watch it again if I don't understand it the first time. I would not want to use that as a substitute for advanced learning classes where the interaction with the prof is key.
Of course there are certainly other advantages to being in a classroom that cannot be duplicated online. Q&A, expansion of a topic, etc.
As an educator, I decided to try an online graduate course. One was enough for me. Part of the problem was working with groups of people on an assignment for the week. Out of nine weeks, I was paired with one group that could be relied upon to get their individual responsibilities done. I never tried another after that.
in a cohort program meeting friday evenings and saturday mornings. It was amazing, but you could never do that online.
Easily over 300 kids in the auditorium-sized classroom. I think there was an audible mass chuckle on the first day when he gave the warning about the potential for missed classes to affect your final grade. An online class almost certainly would've been more effective, assuming the student was serious - and if the student wasn't serious the lecture hall wasn't going to make a difference anyway.
Online classes definitely have value, but it does raise an eyebrow when the starting quarterback does an entire semester online. I wonder what percentage of A&M students take even the majority of their credits online, let alone all of them.
and with online classes, it's actually easier to monitor attendance, and if desired, even monitor attention level.
big time. This will be more and more common in the future. At least taking some classes on line.
1. It saves you money, online fee's are less. And for electives a lot of state schools accept courses from community colleges. I have a lot of patients whose kids do this, and they also do something called a mini-mester where they complete a course by going all day for several weeks during the Christmas holidays..again they do it a local community college and it's an elective. Save's money.
2. Allows the student to manage their regular on campus courses better and graduate on time. I know a number of kids who just couldn't get everything done in the 4 yrs due to course availability, and they can fill in the gaps with online courses/mini-mesters and graduate on time.
Per my mother, an assistant principal at a Florida high school, students are going to be required to take and pass one online class in order to graduate. I think all Florida schools have to be compliant with this in the next two years.
Among other things, it greatly increases the number of foreign language classes and AP classes that can be offered. In high school, I'm guessing online courses are slotted into a class period just like any other class.
Online classes are becoming more and more popular as enrollments grow to keep class sizes small (in addition to limited building space). There was a proposal a few years ago to limit the amount of non-traditional classes a student-athlete could take each semester, but it was shot down.
It's important to remember that it's not just student-athletes enrolled in these classes or majors. Universities are increasingly cranking out thousands of graduates each year who take advantage of this. This problem (if you view it as one) could easily be solved by the universities themselves cracking down on these types of classes, but that would ultimately hurt their bottom line. Hopefully, any negative press against these types of stories also get aimed at the schools themselves for allowing this in the first place.
Read up a little on this.
Do you go to college and take a class solely to learn the material in that class? If yes, then an online class may well be a good substitute.
I personally do not think that the true value of college classes, at least in some disciplines, was the sheer rote learning. The actual experience of sitting in class, taking notes, and generally "being a college kid in class with other college kids" was far more valuable to one's development and growth.
It would be exceptionally easy for an athlete taking all online classes to not do an ounce of work during their entire college career.
under John Robinson?
correspondence courses, but that of courses requires someone to actually want to do the monitoring.
I can tell you that my medical school relied heavily on online lectures.
Online courses, when done correctly, are just as good as traditional, in-class, courses. I was trying to make a point that they can be as good, if not better, than many other traditional classes. It's just as easy to cheat in an online class as it is any other class.
I was mostly disagreeing with the opinion that this is somehow an NCAA problem, rather than a University-wide problem. Student-athletes can't take classes (online or in class, easy A, or incredibly difficult) unless their school allows them too.
EDIT to further clarify: The concern here should not be where classes are taken, it's whether the classes further a student's education. However, that changes the topic to one that belongs in the Backroom or Political Board, whereas most just wanted to make fun of the situation.
The schools in the SEC are a f%#@ing joke.
This kind of garbage probably happens more often than is publicized. As was pointed out below, the potential for academic fraud with online courses is almost limitless. However, I'm sure the NCAA has more important things to worry about, like not giving Jamoris Slaughter a sixth year.
at a "school" established by their football coach.
They have a stadium, right?
I'm kidding...sort of.
Capella and Strayer.
Could be a formidable D1 confernce.
that includes Full Sail University and another new start-up team, Flock of Seagulls Online University.
Line conference. I hope American Military University (AMU) joins as well. They could be the powerhouse in that conference. Only wimps attend Phoenix.
WGU isn't a for profit simply designed to troll for student loans.
I actually have a friend getting a Maaters in Mathematics from WGU. She's working her ass off.
But it IS online like the others, thus its inclusion in the "joke."