Read Alex Scarborough, Tide Nation, "What a Shame"
by 59er_jim (2013-02-15 11:56:30)
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on Bama Bad Boys. Uses Ray Lewis as a model for rehabilitation.


Would we hear of this if they had imaginary girlfriends? *
by ProV1x  (2013-02-16 09:17:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


They had imaginary morals. *
by bleedsgreen04  (2013-02-16 14:34:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


And imaginary
by IrishRed  (2013-02-16 14:43:05)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

National Titles.


In a sad commentary on our society
by NJDoubleDomer  (2013-02-16 07:21:54)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

These (alleged) felons will be a blip on the media radar, and will be less vilified than Manti. I am reminded of that old bumper sticker: "Jesus is Coming...and Boy, is He Pissed."


To some degree the Manti fiasco was ND's doing.
by BAC69  (2013-02-16 09:49:37)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

If they had not chosen to put him on a pedestal and try to run him for the Heisman and all the other awards, his problems would probably have gone largely unnoticed also. I don't know, of course, but with 84 other players on scholarship at ND, there is probably at least one who has something going on that would be as bad or worse than having a hoax girlfriend. But we don't hear anything about it because they aren't high visibility. The AL guys, while players on a high-visibility team, weren't themselves Heisman candidates or in some other high visibility position. If their QB had done something like this I think there would be a lot more press on it. This is the risk of putting someone on a pedestal--someone is always around to try to knock them off.


Ergo, ND should never push an athlete for awards?
by Dennis  (2013-02-16 16:16:42)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

What crap! Manti deserved every award he got. The catfish thing was unfortunate but such is life. Just playing at Notre Dame makes you high profile in and of itself. An ND athlete can't hide from that as it comes with the territory. Any negative event that happens at ND is overplayed in the media without fail. That's because we have earned a legion of haters based upon our success and their envy. You either need to learn to live with it or root for someone else.


I think BAC was making a different point *
by NJDoubleDomer  (2013-02-16 22:45:59)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


You are correct. *
by BAC69  (2013-02-18 09:33:34)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Ray Lewis is less a model for rehabilitation...
by BeastOfBourbon  (2013-02-15 17:36:35)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

than a model for getting away with murder.


Charles Barkley last night...
by kmurphy173  (2013-02-15 17:07:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


"Leave the kids alone,man, leave the kids alone!" *
by ProV1x  (2013-02-17 11:14:08)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That is outstanding *
by sprack  (2013-02-15 18:39:34)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Yahoo headline: "Alabama players barred from campus"
by JClarke  (2013-02-15 16:05:17)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

As if those players know that Alabama has a campus.


Predictable. *
by JHND  (2013-02-15 15:12:10)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Would be hard to let them back on the team if they are in
by HoundDog1973  (2013-02-15 12:53:22)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

prison, where they belong for at least a bit.


That didn't stop USC with Simione Vehikite....
by JHND  (2013-02-15 15:14:47)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

After six months in joint, he more or less slipped off the orange jump suit and stepped straight into a USC practice jersey.


100% ridiculous
by mnirish25  (2013-02-15 12:52:32)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I'm all for forgiveness and second chances in life but that doesn't mean that somebody should regain everything they stand to lose. The Ray Lewis example is tenuous at best. I doubt the Ravens would have stood by Lewis if he was convicted of murder. Furthermore, I doubt they would have stood by him if he blatantly assaulted a Ravens fan outside of the stadium which is similar to the 'Bama on-campus assault.

I expect and hope that Saban disposes of these players. If they turn themselves around they should have the opportunity to play somewhere else, but they forfeited their right to play at 'Bama if the allegations are true.


In fairness, the comments are just shredding the author...
by IanY77  (2013-02-15 12:51:06)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Including a lot of Alabama fans. Aside from Jerry Sandusky articles, I've never seen this kind of one sided reaction. I almost want to say that the guy is doing a "devil's advocate" argument.

I'm with the majority. At least in the case of Ray Lewis, it can be argued that it was a crime of passion. This attack was premeditated. They need to be expelled and prosecuted. No excuses.


Is this guy related to Morning joe? *
by Nd65usn06cfp  (2013-02-16 00:47:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Doubt it. But I believe Joe S thinks this exact same way
by Raoul  (2013-02-16 09:52:05)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

based on his comments. He's very much in the "everybody does it" camp.


Yeah, the reaction seems pretty consistent.
by jerseyirish07  (2013-02-15 14:36:53)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

As it seems like it should be.


The UA campus paper is on the side of sanity as well...
by IanY77  (2013-02-15 15:22:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Although, like a lot of websites, stay out of the comments section if you don't want to despair for the direction of humanity.


You can credit the
by nonalum  (2013-02-15 17:36:04)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Alabama fans for understanding this is no crisis. If they boot all 4 players off the team, they're still about a dozen over the "roster limit". So why would there be cause for concern.


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