Big Ten moving to 9 or 10 game conference schedule
by ryND (2013-02-11 17:46:31)
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@TeddyGreenstein B1G's Delany: Status quo of 8 conf games "not even on the table" now. It'll be either 9 or 10. Decision in spring.



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by 59er_jim  (2013-02-15 11:33:27)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I think 4 B1G schools would have been eligible with 10 games
by DakotaDomer  (2013-02-13 10:44:53)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

in conference last season.


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by BillShakespeare  (2013-02-12 22:12:21)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


This almost guarantees no non-conference road games
by Groundhog  (2013-02-12 18:51:35)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Most of their members want 7 home games per year so, assuming that the conference games will be even between home and away, whether 5 home/4 road, 4 home/5 road, or 5 and 5, the two remaining slots will never be on the road.

That should make for some dynamite matchups when the Big Ten school isn't willing to schedule a home and home with a decent non-conference opponent.


At that point, why not 12?
by IrishBison  (2013-02-12 10:58:11)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Who really cares about seeing them play a MAC or 1AA school to fill their last 2 or 3 spots on their schedule. Just let them play within their own league while they tell eachother that the B1G is the greatest thing in college football.


The excitement building up to the long-awaited
by BeijingIrish  (2013-02-12 07:01:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Rutgers-Indiana match-up will be something to see. Ditto Maryland vs Minnesota. These epic contests will make people forget MSU vs ND in a hurry.


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by ShermanOaksND  (2013-02-13 09:26:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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by DakotaDomer  (2013-02-13 10:28:10)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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by snarlcakes  (2013-02-13 08:13:14)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


It seems to be a conference-wide narcissism;
by BigShu  (2013-02-12 10:51:03)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

they assume that everyone will be as interested to see them as, well, THEY are. I believe this same narcissism might account for naming one's own divisions "Leaders" and "Legends."


This will hurt the MAC
by tb-sb  (2013-02-12 01:14:47)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I know they want to hurt us, but I think they will hurt the MAC and their TV ratings the most.

Her's how the 48 OOC games last year break down.
ND-3
Pac 10-4(this doesn't include any of the 3 top teams for the past few years, USC, Oregon or Stanford)
Rest of the BCS-7(Give Michigan credit, they played the 2 teams that played in the championship game. Northwestern 3 of the 6 others. Besides Alabama the 6 games were against Syracuse(twice), Virginia, BC, Vandy and Iowa St. Not even a representative sample of the BCS teams.
MAC-13
Service academy teams-3
Other D1-10
D2(you know what I mean)-8

Somehow I think the number of games against BCS schools will decline the most.


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by ndgotrobbedin97  (2013-02-11 22:28:22)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Nine I can see. Ten reeks of insularity. No wonder he wants
by Raoul  (2013-02-11 20:11:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

geographic expansion within the conference. They won't have any geographic diversity otherwise.

You have to believe one of the 2-3 OOC games would be a MAC team for all the Big 10. So in a 10 gamre schedule you might, just might have a good game. Iowa, for example, would be a cup cake and Iowa State and 10 Big 10 teams. Yuck.


I think the endgame here is to
by tf86  (2013-02-12 15:48:10)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Pressure the NCAA for a 13-game season. That way you can have a 10-game conference schedule and still have room on the schedule for 3 OOC games.

I've always had a problem with a 9-game conference schedule. The odd number off home/away games benefits some schools and punishes others.


There is strong pressure for Iowa to continue to play UNI
by IAND75  (2013-02-12 08:49:27)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and Iowa State every year. That would take care of its OOC.

I guess that is one way to get the Hawkeye fans fired up for the occasional road trip to New Brunswick.


HORRIBLE Idea
by Dangelotti  (2013-02-11 19:49:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Without inter conference play, they will not be able to gauge their teams against National talent. I.e. how good are they? Will also lower strength of schedule for own years. And most importantly, lower their draw for recruiting outside of the Midwest.


When you suck, not having outside comparison is desirable.
by Zipherius  (2013-02-13 01:09:31)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Take Ohio State next year. They play absolutely no one OOC, and should be able to coast into a BCS game if not the championship itself before being tested. Still, the conference will be collecting the same money. The B1G as a whole will get more prestigious bowl invites as well.
It's ALL about money to Jim Delaney. By having less non-conference games, it becomes less apparent to the rubes in the stands that their team is not as good as many of the MAC schools ( I specifically refer to the Little 9 here), and also less obvious that the best teams in the league can't compare to the top programs nationally.

It is unquestionably a short-sighted move that will hurt the B1G brand in the long run - the recruiting hit you mention will be big, but it is the thinking of PTB's of the B1G.


Regarding recruiting
by MNG  (2013-02-11 20:20:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I agree with you, but Delany's answer would probably be that once the big Ten gets to 16 schools, the conference will cover new, rich in footballl talent, areas.


They believe FSU, Ga Tech, UVA, UNC are next four
by Raoul  (2013-02-11 20:25:08)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Not sayin' they are right or wrong, but that is what they believe will happen. Delaney also assumes that Clemson, NCST, VaTech and FSU leaving for maybe SEC or Big 12.


If the B1G is consistent
by tf86  (2013-02-13 10:18:54)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It will never add Florida State.

So far, the m.o. in B1G expansion has been:

1. AAU school;
2. Not located in current B1G footprint, but located in a state adjacent to current B1G footprint.

If the B1G were to continue to follow that blueprint, that would make UVa the 15th member, and UNC the 16th member. If they go beyond that, Ga Tech becomes the 17th member, and Florida (an AAU member) becomes the 18th member. Florida State is not an AAU member and not likely to become one anytime in the foreseeable future.

Of course, a turf war with the SEC is probably not what the B1G is looking for. I suppose they could try to arrange a Florida State-for-Florida swap on behalf of the SEC, but that could be a tall order as well.


Not exactly
by MNG  (2013-02-11 20:29:02)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The Big Ten isn't going past 16 schools. Next on the list are GTech and maybe Virginia. Delany probably expects FSUand Clemson to go to the Big 12.


they might go to 20
by brnd  (2013-02-12 06:16:29)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Delaney is hell bent on trapping ND w/o options to coerce them into his conference


Think about this...
by irisharab  (2013-02-11 19:59:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


For five years (2006-2010), the Pac-10 football teams played a round-robin conference schedule. They did not do this until the NCAA teams were allowed to play 12 regular season football games.

I know that five seasons is a relatively short time frame, but during those five seasons, did the Pac-10 experience the same problems that you think the Big-10 would experience with a 9-10 game conference schedule?

I realize that there are differences between the Pac-10 during that time period and the current Big-10. However, both conferences were essentially dominated by two teams (USC and Oregon, Ohio State and Michigan).


Read your last paragraph and answer it yourself
by Dangelotti  (2013-02-11 20:14:24)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I live in Big 10 country. I formed my opinion based on conversations with their fans. This is not a new idea.


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by tbonesays  (2013-02-11 18:28:09)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


If they move to 10 conference games...
by irisharab  (2013-02-11 18:02:09)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I can't imagine that MSU or Purdue will continue to play ND annually.

With nine conference games... I could see MSU and Purdue becoming a 4 (or 6) games every decade series. If the rest of the conference is playing three cupcakes for their non-conference schedule, I can't see those two schools playing ND every year.


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by Fontoknow  (2013-02-11 18:28:44)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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by brnd  (2013-02-11 18:04:10)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


The BTN is a national network with broad geographic appeal
by rAOUL  (2013-02-11 20:15:29)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Every game on the BTN is a national TV game.


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by Mr Wednesday  (2013-02-12 11:17:43)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


....That nobody watches.... *
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by Rammer Jammer  (2013-02-12 09:16:19)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


MSU was on "national" TV 9 times last year
by kmurphy173  (2013-02-11 19:21:39)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

A team that finished one game above .500 in a conference with it's own network still managed appearances on network TV or an ESPN network (which I think should be considered national at this point) a total of 9 times last year. Kind of incredible when you think about it:

Boise State - ESPN
Central Michigan - ESPNU
ND - ABC
Ohio State - ABC
Iowa - ESPN
Wisconsin - ABC
Nebraska - ABC
Northwestern - ESPN2
TCU (Bowl Game) - ESPN

Even Purdue had a few national games:
ND - NBC
Ohio State - ABC regional / ESPN2
Penn State - ESPNU
OK State (Bowl game) - ESPNU


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by NDBass  (2013-02-12 12:06:48)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Either national on ABC or reverse mirror with ESPN/ESPN2
by ShermanOaksND  (2013-02-13 09:32:53)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Either way, they were seen nationally.


I know you put it in quotes, but I don't consider ESPNU
by G.K.Chesterton  (2013-02-11 21:17:03)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

"national TV". Even ESPN should only be considered national cable, IMHO, not national TV, since not everyone has cable TV (something the cable networks don't want to talk about).

I would given MSU credit for 7 out of 12 games.


I kind of think the pendulum is swinging back the other way.
by Tex Francisco  (2013-02-11 20:22:57)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

As more and more people drop cable for a combination of OTA antenna and online streaming, the distinction between cable and network is becoming more significant. This is probably the opposite of the 90s and early 2000s where the emergence of satellite made "cable" television more accessible to everyone.


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by cajunlawyer  (2013-02-11 17:55:58)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I wonder if this will effect our MSU and Purdue games.
by ryND  (2013-02-11 17:58:23)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Not that I would miss Purdue. MSU would be a tough loss for me personally.


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