Bengals take Joiner fresh out da jernt.
by Hipster (2013-02-05 07:26:29)
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Ah., lovely. Do your prison term for robbery and come back to a stadium of adoring fans and lots of money.

Way to go NFL, set those standards high...or low. Whatever works.
And we wonder why so many college football players act like the rules don't apply to them and other people don't matter.

Sigh.


Gates Brown did time for armed robbery and later won a
by G.K.Chesterton  (2013-02-05 13:27:21)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

World Series with the 1968 Detroit Tigers. (Oddly, the Wiki says it was burglary.)


It is stories like this that make me think Teo will have
by BAC69  (2013-02-05 10:42:21)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

little problem in the draft. Of course this guy is a proven player, but my point is that I think Teo will be picked based on his football prowess or potential prowess, as shown in the combines and in his college games, not based on his naivety in some harmless hoax (as opposed to a person doing something that actually sent them to jail for a time.)


Tom Jackson flatly said on NFL Gameday that
by 206er  (2013-02-06 09:47:12)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

he'd have more respect for Te'o if he'd orchestrated the hoax rather than been duped by it. He added (and I'm inclined to believe him) that an NFL defense would have trouble respecting a guy they thought of as a dupe and a chump.

Fair? Good? No. But unfortunately it's reality, and Manti has to deal with it and overcome it.


nothing like casual racism to start the morning. *
by GK  (2013-02-05 09:23:07)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


And the award for worst post of the day goes to..... *
by Rochester Domer  (2013-02-05 15:30:59)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Nothing like wild accustations of racism either *
by ndgotrobbedin97  (2013-02-05 15:16:59)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


Do you meant the blackface Joiner is sporting in the pic
by pmcdnd96  (2013-02-05 12:49:49)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

in the linked article? In that case, you're probably right.


How did you jump to that ridiculous conclusion? *
by Slotts  (2013-02-05 10:05:27)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


I guess from 'da jernt', but I don't see that as offensive. *
by irishhawk49  (2013-02-06 10:16:00)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That's ridiculous
by Hipster  (2013-02-05 09:58:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Casual racism? Based on what? Would citing bad actors in salt and pepper pairs make you more comfortable politically? Fine. Ben Rothlisberger is a pasty white German guy who shouldn't have a job in the NFL either. In fact, he's worse than a petty larcenist. A damn German American rapist is what he is. There, happy?


Not to defend a skeezball
by YinzKeenanVisor  (2013-02-05 10:35:31)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But ... first: he's Swiss (not German); and second: he was never arrested or charged with a crime, and in the Millidgeville incident, was never accused of "rape."


Devil's Advocate
by Rochester Domer  (2013-02-05 07:44:28)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He paid his debt to society, why shouldn't he be allowed to earn a living now?


Also, the crime was committed in 2008, when he was about 19.
by Nova Scotia Irish  (2013-02-05 09:23:21)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

The Bengals have had plenty of time to evaluate him. They haven't done well in the past, however.


By all means
by Hipster  (2013-02-05 08:05:45)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

But let him earn it at Papa John's or ditch digging at the local cemetery. There are many, many types of jobs one cannot have if one is a convicted felon.

Something is messed up when a football player has to hide the fact that he's gay for fear of losing his job, but knock off a gas station? Sell and distribute a hay bail of weed? Fight dogs to their death? Knife two kids at a club?

NFL baby. Nooooooo problem. That's messed up.


oxyMORON
by jakone  (2013-02-06 12:02:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I've never met a Nazi Hipster before.


Godwin's law in effect?
by Hipster  (2013-02-09 09:34:29)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies[1][2]) is an argument made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] that has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."[


You broke the law, it's there for people to see,
by DakotaDomer  (2013-02-05 09:24:16)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Why should you earn the same as honest men like me?


Can you explain why you feel playing football
by elcortez01  (2013-02-05 08:15:25)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

should be one of those?


Yes
by Hipster  (2013-02-05 08:23:33)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Because a professional football player is an employee drawing a direct paycheck and doesn't just represent himself. An employer should have their own set of standards for employees and where those standards are higher than the employees personal standards, the employee needs to conform to the employer's standard or tough shit, no job.


Well put, but
by BmoreIrish  (2013-02-05 09:02:39)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It is also up to the employer to decide whether or not a person with something like this in his past will be able to live up to the standards set forth and be sure those parameters, as well as repercussions, are articulated up front. Having never met the young man, I am not sure we are in the position to make such a call.

It's not like he's going to be a teacher or a doctor for a living, he is doing something where his job is to run fast and smash into people.


Fair enough
by elcortez01  (2013-02-05 08:28:14)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Though until you or I own an NFL franchise it doesn't really matter what we think.


It's not like he stabbed someone or two...
by graNDfan  (2013-02-05 07:32:02)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

At this point what difference does it make.....


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