"We had a rule no timeouts in the first or third quarter."
by rkg (2013-02-04 07:35:36)
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Herm Edwards said this morning on M&M.

Sounds like a good rule. Perhaps, some NFL teams might want to implement it as a commandment.

Calling a TO on first and ten in the third Q was beyond head scratching.

Unrelated sidebar?

Why not throw to the big TE on one of the play inside the 5? Did 3 of those plays go to the same smurf?


taking a 5 yd delay penalty on 1st down is better wasting
by discNDav  (2013-02-04 15:14:49)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

a timeout in the situation. Rookie QB mistake.


it was third down
by jt  (2013-02-04 22:37:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

and I still would have taken the penalty;

Pretty easy mistake to make in the heat of the moment, however.


No, it was FIRST down the 3rd Q. Reread the original post.
by rkg  (2013-02-05 17:45:59)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

or check the link, but check the link at your own risk, i don't know if it was written by someone "who knows the game"


Completely agree. 3rd Q TOs are for losers. Those TOs are
by rkg  (2013-02-04 19:14:44)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

like gold late in the fourth quarter.


well, I mean, if Herm Edwards says so
by jt  (2013-02-04 22:38:52)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

why not take a timeout in the third quarter? What if it had led to a scoring drive.


If it had led to scoring drives, it just leads you to the
by rkg  (2013-02-05 19:12:45)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

larger point. You more than likely are going to need those timeouts at the end of the game.

No offense, I think you are upset your team lost and lashing out at everybody.

Sorry the team of your youth didn't win.


that's validated by his strong 54-74 NFL record *
by El Capitan  (2013-02-04 11:11:15)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


54 more NFL wins than I have *
by rkg  (2013-02-04 19:12:41)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


and 30 more than Harbaugh
by jt  (2013-02-04 23:31:47)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

so, of course, he must know more.

You should get your information from someone else. Herm is an idiot.


It is possible he knows some things and sucks at others
by btd  (2013-02-05 20:01:03)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He may not be Ty who really was amazing in that he didn't appear to be good at anything related to football. Herm maybe is a master of TO strategy and his problems were in other areas.


Hello? *
by 53stackmonster  (2013-02-04 12:41:33)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


and he coached in how many post season games?
by Doggie  (2013-02-04 10:56:35)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

On the side bar, I didn't see the whole field but perhaps the Ravens were taking away Davis?


they blitzed everybody. Moss or Davis had to be single
by rkg  (2013-02-04 19:16:01)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

covered. Throw it up in the air. They are big. Throwing to the smurf 3 straight times. Loser calls.


Crabtree is 6-1 and has the best hands
by jt  (2013-02-04 23:30:50)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

he would have been in better position to make the catch were he not interfered with, twice.

I don't think you really understand the game.


I disagree again. You are "hoping" for a call that isn't
by rkg  (2013-02-05 17:56:59)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

coming. Few if any refs are going to call that and basically give the SB title to a team. Not happening.

a) inside the 10 yard line it's tight. It's a big boy's game.

b) Throwing passes inside the 10 yard line can be similar to rebounding in the NBA It's about body position and elevating and fighting for the ball at its highest point.

c) the scouting reports said Kapernick's first option is Crabtree. (they threw to him 3 straight times). FWIW, best hands on the team, that doesn't hold water in this instance. It's not going to be a Jackie Smith moment. It's a 5 yard TD pass.

d) Scouting reports said leading into the game Kapernick had overthrown 7 of 8 passes to the endzone prior to the Superbowl.

e) Based on point D, you are asking Kapernick to throw a timing route (ie in a certain place at a certain time) that's a low percentage completion based on those stats. On 4th down, do or die no less.

f) I think a pass to like Rudolf which won the game @ Purdue or a pass similar to the jump balls to Eifert would have worked.

g) On third down, Moss was open and waving his arms, see link, but again, Kapernick's first look is usually Crabtree, which isn't bad at midfield, again not so much inside the 5 yard line.

Again, just my 2 cents, and for the record, I was rooting for the 9ers to score there.


Herm Edwards is a blowhard and a lousy coach *
by jt  (2013-02-04 10:06:11)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. However
by rkg  (2013-02-04 19:17:34)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

his comments on Timeouts were spot on. The logic and strategy are sound.

Third Quarter time out on first down that's frosh HS stuff. Come on, admit it.

They chocked it up. Deer in the headlights.


no, they're really not spot on. He's a loser and a blowhard
by jt  (2013-02-04 23:29:39)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

timeouts are timeouts; if you let the game get away from you because you're afraid to use a timeout in the first or third quarter than they're worthless at the end of the half anyway.

They choked, sure. I've said it numerous times. But your example (the first down) is bad. The other timeout was the worse error.


I've never understood why anyone listens to him. *
by thersh  (2013-02-04 13:11:03)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


It was on at the health club. Kept me on the elliptical for
by rkg  (2013-02-04 19:13:43)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

16 minutes no small feat.

He's a good analyst. Upbeat.


I have only watched a couple of 49ers games this year
by BmoreIrish  (2013-02-04 09:22:00)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

So I don't know how Jim Harbaugh is with clock management, but I was surprised both by the 3rd quarter timeout and the timeout on the final drive. In fact, on their last offensive play they barely got the play off and I thought they were going to have to burn their last one. You see it time and again where having three timeouts at the end of an NFL game is critical. I suppose that is part of having a first-year starting QB.


He had to call 2nd TO, play clock was at 0
by okerland  (2013-02-04 12:20:43)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Colin took much time adjusting the run play to the left.


Lovie Smith was the king of the 1st quarter timeout
by ShermanOaksND  (2013-02-04 09:14:02)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

He was OK at saving them in the 3rd quarter, but it's hard for me to remember a Bears game when they didn't squander at least one TO in the 1st.

Then there was the Washington Huskies game when Ty Willingham spent a timeout between the touchback on the opening kickoff and UW's first offensive play -- with 15:00 left in the 1st quarter. I think UW was hosting Cal and it was in 2005, Ty's first year in Seattle. Good times.


Sounds like a Kelly post circa 2011. *
by IrishintheD  (2013-02-04 08:26:55)     Delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post


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