So how does each of ND's sports compare ...
by CJC (2017-06-03 13:01:16)

In reply to: Swarbrick is still the AD  posted by ShermanOaksND


to where it was when Swarbrick took over as AD?

Arguably, won-lost record is the biggest factor (including post-season), but off-the-field issues, facilities and trends in won-lost, recruiting, etc., are also relevant.

Football -- on-field arguably a wash, although Weis left behind Te'o, Floyd and others. I'd argue that Kelly's current recruiting trend is poorer than Weis' final few years. Of course, we didn't forfeit any wins under Weis.

Men's basketball -- better, although with an inherited coach. Arena was updated/upgraded under Swarbrick, but more importantly, the allegedly forthcoming new practice facility was far too long in the making.

Women's basketball -- better in that the five straight final fours arguably eclipse the 2001 national championship, certainly in terms of sustained excellence. Again, though, with an inherited coach.

Hockey -- on the ice, roughly the same, with an inherited coach. Facilities have been radically upgraded, although by all public accounts, the lion's share of the funding came via a benefactor's relationship with the inherited coach.

Baseball -- remains mired below mediocrity; Swarbrick's hire is beyond question ill-suited for the job but just completed his seventh season -- 1 NCAA bid, two seasons with plus-.500 record.

Softball -- remained mired in mediocrity, at least if competing for championships is truly the standard.

I'll defer to others, but men's and women's tennis don't seem any better than when Swarbrick was hired; women's tennis definitely has dipped, although that may have predated Swarbrick's arrival.

Men's soccer -- approximately the same; program did win its first-ever NCAA championship during Swarbrick's tenure, with an inherited coach. Was the current (relatively new) soccer stadium funded and built during Swarbrick's tenure?

Women's soccer -- unquestionably worse since Swarbrick took over. Ditto regarding stadium, shared with the men's program.

Men's lacrosse -- has reached new heights under an inherited coach; I believe the new stadium was funded and built during Swarbrick's tenure.

Women's lacrosse -- seems pretty much the same; they share the new facility with the men's team.

Volleyball -- although not a sport that I follow closely, this may be the sport that is poised to show the greatest improvement under Swarbrick. After finally getting rid of a long-time "protected" (by virtue of marriage) head coach, it appears that we have an elite head coach, although by public accounts (I have no knowledge), the head coach was pretty determined to land at Notre Dame.

Men's and women's track and cross-country -- it seems to me that all of these squads reached new heights during the latter stages of head coach Joe Piane's long career, which ended in 2013. I haven't paid close enough attention to what's happened since Piane retired.

Men's and women's golf -- no idea, although I'm aware that the men's golf coach was fired at the conclusion of the recently-completed season.

Men's and women's swimming -- no idea.

Rowing -- no idea.

Men's and women's fencing -- I know that we've recently won at least one national championship, so we've got that going for us.

Am I forgetting any sports?

Other facts, arguments on the state of ND sports?


The Purcell Pavilion upgrade was announced in 2006
by ShermanOaksND  (2017-06-03 16:17:38)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

It was completed on Swarbrick's watch, but was set in motion under White.

The Compton Family Ice Arena was announced in 2009, under Swarbrick, but as you note, the funding apparently came from a benefactor's relationship with a head coach who had fallen in White's lap.

I'd grade Swarbrick as follows:

1. Stewardship of football -- F
* C for the initial hire of Brian Kelly, F for keeping Weis an extra year, F for keeping Kelly this long, and F-minus for the Declan Sullivan tragedy and its aftermath

2. Stewardship of basketball -- B
* A for keeping Brey and McGraw, D for the very slow crawl to a practice facility (will upgrade to a C if/when it's actually finished)..

3. Leaving the Big East for the ACC -- C
* A for its impact on sports other than football, but a D for its impact on football.

4. Stewardship of baseball -- F
* Aoki was an uninspired hire, his failure should've been predictable, and he's stayed too long.

5. Everything else -- B
* None of his decisions outside the above categories has been particularly momentous, at least as far aa I can tell.

To calculate Swarbrick's GPA, I'd assign 5 units for football, 3 each for basketball and ACC joinder, 2 for baseball, and 2 for everything else. That gives Swarbrick 15 grade points for 15 units, for a GPA of 1.0. A tad better than Blutarsky, but not good enough by a long shot.


Swarbrick has publicly taken credit for the Compton Arena
by mikeybates  (2017-06-03 18:35:19)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

In the video link attached. He may not be good at hiring coaches but he has every marketing buzzword down.

If you want to watch a "Mendoza dialogue" where you might learn something, watch the one with Malpass.