There has to be a logical way to control gun violence.

There has to be a logical way to control gun violence.
by Wooderson (2012-12-14 13:37:09)

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In reply to: what can be done? seriously. What action can we take posted by jreednd

Mental health screenings before purchases maybe? I dunno. I just don't understand how Switzerland can have a rifle in every house, and not see an ounce of the horror we have.

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As callous as it sounds today, I think we have to start... - Shadyirish 2012-12-14 16:10:01
Most gun violence is gang related. - ericcartman 2012-12-14 15:16:45
There are several problems with mental health ... - Rocksteady74 2012-12-14 14:32:09
- That's not quite true re: WA - lenny97 2012-12-14 15:17:43
  - I recall that the guy who shot up the folk life ... - Rocksteady74 2012-12-14 15:33:23
    - Not sure about folk-life but Ian Stawicki of Cafe shooting - lenny97 2012-12-14 15:43:28
- Doesn't the glorification of the 2nd amendment somewhat - Wooderson 2012-12-14 14:39:46
  - I can't say I see a direct connection, at least with ... - Rocksteady74 2012-12-14 14:58:52
  - Can you offer some details there? Particularly, could you - Barrister 2012-12-14 14:41:56
    - Sure thing. - Wooderson 2012-12-14 15:23:10
      - I disagree. - jerseyirish07 2012-12-14 17:31:49
        You want the ability to take up arms against the state? - OGerry 2012-12-14 17:43:00
        Keep your greasy gubm'nt fingers off my propertah! * - jerseyirish07 2012-12-14 18:14:56
      - A few responses: - Barrister 2012-12-14 15:40:25
      - the Boy Scouts are better than our school system - lenny97 2012-12-14 15:37:37
    - The top video games are first person shooters and - Bailey 2012-12-14 14:50:04
      - Haven't we had shoot-em up movies for as long as we've - Barrister 2012-12-14 14:52:18
        To destroy Wooderson's argument, I'm sure kids in Japan - novusordo0205 2012-12-14 14:53:51
        I'm not out to "detroy" anyone's argument, I just don't know - Barrister 2012-12-14 15:00:34
        To destroy Wooderson's argument, I'm sure kids in Japan - novusordo0205 2012-12-14 14:53:37
        Well they don't, actually. - dentonfreeman 2012-12-14 15:38:14
        Interesting. Maybe there is something to his point. - novusordo0205 2012-12-14 15:40:13
        Yes, because firearm acquisition in Japan is - Wooderson 2012-12-14 15:06:13
        What is the ratio of legal/illegal gun violence? - NDBass 2012-12-14 15:24:39
        It's around 98%. - WilfordBrimley 2012-12-14 15:40:06
        Yet Japan's suicide rate trumps ours. - novusordo0205 2012-12-14 15:11:42
        Its meaningless to control guns with 3-D printing anyway - atthedome 2012-12-14 15:29:17
        1. This is an asinine post. 2 Most of the thread belongs on - thejumpbackmama 2012-12-14 15:22:16
        It seems to me both easy and logical to differentiate ... - Rocksteady74 2012-12-14 15:20:36
        I don't and find both to be tragic. * - novusordo0205 2012-12-14 15:22:09
        In a sense, I know you're right. - Bruno95 2012-12-14 15:28:17
Take away the guns, and we could turn into China... (link) - gozer 2012-12-14 14:26:38
- Where there have been fewer fatalities in all the attacks - irishlaw2010 2012-12-14 14:28:46
  - Where the crazies also seem to pick on small children - gozer 2012-12-14 14:46:36
Their population is 1/40th of ours. - novusordo0205 2012-12-14 14:00:39
- Bruno's comment was on a per capita basis. * - chidomer 2012-12-14 14:22:13
  - Per capita doesn't matter. All it takes it one person. * - novusordo0205 2012-12-14 14:42:35
Has Swiss society decayed to the same extent ours has? * - ndtim2005 2012-12-14 13:39:04
- Define decay - bendomer 2012-12-14 19:52:53
- Is their society as transient? - Bailey 2012-12-14 13:45:13
  - I agree with this - KeoughCharles05 2012-12-14 16:29:33
  - I can't believe that knowing your neighbors helps. - smcchick 2012-12-14 14:19:54
    - The key word in your post is "meth". * - NDBass 2012-12-14 14:38:48
      - Did you not watch The Andy Griffith show, the guy - smcchick 2012-12-14 15:29:01
        That's kind of the point. - NDBass 2012-12-14 15:39:47
        That's the funny thing, her mom feels completely safe - smcchick 2012-12-14 15:43:20
    - I think it does. - ndtim2005 2012-12-14 14:21:36
      - It helps to know who to avoid. - smcchick 2012-12-14 14:26:23
        And in the olden day, banish and marginalize those fuckers. * - ndtim2005 2012-12-14 14:34:25
        Indeed. * - smcchick 2012-12-14 15:27:58
  - A lot to agree with here * - IrishGuard 2012-12-14 14:08:43
    - Well, not the grammar. * - Rocksteady74 2012-12-14 14:54:52
      - Easy, now. * - Bailey 2012-12-14 15:07:26
  - Am I wrong - themanwhowouldbeking 2012-12-14 14:03:54
    - I didn't mean to imply that. - Bailey 2012-12-14 14:19:31
      - What, in fact, connected us with each other then? - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 14:39:25
        I don't disagree with your timeline. - Bailey 2012-12-14 14:45:17
        It's not just a "timeline." - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 14:56:48
        I don't disagree with that either. - Bailey 2012-12-14 15:12:09
        Slainte. * - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:24:21
        People have used faith in God and religious belief - themanwhowouldbeking 2012-12-14 15:11:03
        It's not even a train of thought. More like a smear. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:23:38
        And the shooter in this case had a family. He didn't seem... - Rocksteady74 2012-12-14 15:22:01
    - I do not think people have the same kind of support network - Stonebreaker9 2012-12-14 14:08:19
    - Yes, you're wrong. More Oprah is not the solution. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 14:07:58
      - Good grief. * - Papa November 2012-12-14 14:57:34
      - If you think this is a black and white issue - elterrible 2012-12-14 14:24:08
        This isn't an argument. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 14:30:45
        Hard-working, God-fearing people - elterrible 2012-12-14 14:34:44
        Guess I hit a nerve. But this isn't the time to be so catty. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 14:46:26
        Did Oprah steal your doughnut? - jdwy0313 2012-12-14 15:25:09
        I long for the days of zealotry and peace. * - Papa November 2012-12-14 14:58:51
        You tried to hit a nerve. Now you feign surprise? * - ndtim2005 2012-12-14 14:51:00
        Oh, I'm not surprised. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:02:22
        It's not my bruised nerve. You're not even making sense. * - ndtim2005 2012-12-14 15:37:52
        You're really on a roll - elterrible 2012-12-14 15:07:19
        Yes, what we really need is some more nuance. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:18:41
        Glad you came around * - elterrible 2012-12-14 15:31:48
        I'm not. Things seemed to be going well with him away. - ndtim2005 2012-12-14 15:39:17
        Anytime someone says "god-fearing" it throws up a huge - Papa November 2012-12-14 15:11:53
      - You think "sharing your problems" = "Oprah"? - IrishGuard 2012-12-14 14:15:54
        Yes. You sound like a sophomore sociology major. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 14:29:23
        That's not necessarily true. The wild west had a lot of - smcchick 2012-12-14 16:03:10
        Things like this shock ... - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 16:33:54
        I'm not going out on a limb here - themanwhowouldbeking 2012-12-14 14:42:20
        I'm not sure the statistics do back that up. - Shadyirish 2012-12-14 14:55:41
        Well, I do teach a lot of sophomore sociology majors - IrishGuard 2012-12-14 14:41:32
        One size fits all. * - Finn_MacCool 2012-12-14 14:39:37
        No, but one God does. * - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 14:47:52
        At what point did our national God-consciousness - IrishGuard 2012-12-14 15:02:47
        At what point did our worsening lack of faith ... - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:16:36
        You brought up the "200 years" line, not me - IrishGuard 2012-12-14 15:35:58
        You make me smile in this thread. - ndtiger 2012-12-14 15:24:31
        Because you're above it all, eh? - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:36:15
        It's your choice, Tim. - ndtiger 2012-12-14 15:51:03
        No, it's yours. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 16:06:14
        For the record, I don't think you are wrong. - themanwhowouldbeking 2012-12-14 17:04:59
        You're just an innocent bystander. - ndtim2005 2012-12-14 16:56:23
        Oh, I'm certainly neither of those things. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 19:02:07
        It's really pretty simple. - nd06 2012-12-14 16:55:34
        24. * - ndtiger 2012-12-14 16:19:39
        That isn't what I said - elterrible 2012-12-14 15:39:34
        Yes, it is. It's right there, in that black and white ... - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:49:26
        The point of my post, - elterrible 2012-12-14 15:56:20
        No, that wasn't the point of your post. You were clear. - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 16:20:50
        Yeah, no joke. Nothing like taking a tragedy to - anthro_domer 2012-12-14 15:32:02
        Well said * - elterrible 2012-12-14 15:08:05
        Riiiight. * - Finn_MacCool 2012-12-14 14:51:04
        Just not cool enough for you, MacCool? * - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 14:57:44
        I guess I'm not as desperate for argument as you are. * - Finn_MacCool 2012-12-14 15:05:13
        Or not serious enough to be heard. * - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:17:20
        I don't recall you being this big of a cocksucker. * - nd06 2012-12-14 15:46:05
        That's assuming you'd "hear" me. - Finn_MacCool 2012-12-14 15:41:01
        And you're too cool to try. * - Ofcr. Tim McCarthy 2012-12-14 15:50:34
        You're not here to debate. - Finn_MacCool 2012-12-14 15:54:58
  - Exactly. * - Costanza 2012-12-14 13:51:06

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