The current names being thrown around on our board:
by hoomanbeing (2016-05-25 13:52:56)

In reply to: Starsia out at Virginia  posted by Otter

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Shay from Yale, Tiffany from Brown (provided he brings Kirwan and Kip Turner with him), Toomey from Loyola, Nadelen from Towson (some think he's going to Princeton, though), and a new entrant suggested by a poster on Laxpower, Daly from Tufts. The thinking on Tiffany is that if he can't bring Kirwan, then we'd rather not have him. Kirwan was Daly's OC before he shifted to Brown, who really took off once he got there.

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by kjadoc  (2016-06-01 10:18:40)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Four time all american at UVA, one of the winningest coaches in D-3 history
Thoughts on Ivies, Loyalties and Tufts
by dillon77  (2016-05-25 16:32:18)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Thanks for the summary from the UVA board...interesting.

A few thoughts/questions for you.

- Ivies. A quarter century ago, Dom Starsia left his alma mater, Brown, to to go UVA. Tillman left Harvard to take over Maryland. Sowell left Dartmouth to go to St. John's/Stony Brook/Navy, etc. Recently, the Ivies are putting more money/endowing these spots (like a lot of schools).
Do you think folks would automatically jump from the Ivies, particularly when you double dip it with...

- Loyalty. Lars Tiffany is also a Brown graduate and seems to have everything he needs there, particularly two very good assistant coaches (at least for now...got to think Kirwin will be lulled somewhere soon)
Charlie Toomey is also a Loyola grad. Would he leave his alma mater?

- Tufts. Daly's got them back in the title game. He's had quite a run there, starting it up and maintaining it.

Shawn Nadelin would be interesting at Princeton. Tough, defensive-minded coach...kind of following the Tierney mode.

All that said, I could see Yale's Andy Shay working well at UVa, along with Daly....
FWIW, Dom was also a Brown graduate
by steelhop  (2016-05-25 16:56:55)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

I certainly give credence to the argument that guys like to coach at their alma mater and that has to work into the equation of which program has the bigger platform and which one is going to pay more money? Usually, at the end of the day, for many guys, pay checks outweigh alma mater loyalty.
Exactly. It's easier to get players into UVa than an Ivy.
by hoomanbeing  (2016-05-26 09:24:14)     cannot delete  |  Edit  |  Return to Board  |  Ignore Poster   |   Highlight Poster  |   Reply to Post

Fact of Life. Just ask Tierney. The story that's circulating is that the Princeton Admissions Office was not as friendly as it once was (possibly on orders from the school administration), hence their fall-off from where they were and Tierney's departure. While we're not talking about kids who barely can get out of high school, there is a drop-off. Its degree is in the eye of the beholder.

UVa is considered one of the top jobs in the MLax world. One of our posters said when we're hiring a new MLax coach, it's a similar situation to ND's hiring a football coach or UNC-CHeat's hiring a bball coach. While the coach is expected to put a quality product on the field that is a consistent contender for the national championship, neither the school's athletic or academic administrations nor the fans expect him to win the championship every year. No reasonable request is turned down because all levels of administration support what's being done and the resources are there to pay for them. I would never say that no coach anywhere would ever turn us down, but it would have to be very hard to do it because you have the resources, administration support, fan support, and reasonable expectations of everyone involved that can lead to success.